What do catholics say about judging




















To attack the Communists involves no danger, because they are unpopular with almost everyone in this country. But it requires courage to attack the real enemy, Protestantism.

Still it must be done if we are to save our own souls and the souls of those Protestants of good-will who would come into the Church if a sufficiently strong challenge were presented and a sharp line drawn between the Church and its enemies.

And let us not be afraid of calling the Protestants names. Nothing is so useful in removing surface cordiality. In this day of weakened faith name-calling is considered impolite. Very well, let it be so. Politeness is not one of the cardinal virtues. Our Lord and His apostles called heretics children of malediction, slaves of corruption, scoffers, lying teachers, deceitful workmen transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ, raging waves of the sea foaming out their own confusion, the dog returned to his vomit, the sow wallowing in the mire.

We who have the love of Our Lord and Our Lady and who want good-willed Protestants to share in that love must make clear our challenge. Let us abandon our fears of offending, while we work for the glory of God and the salvation of souls.

In Matthew , Jesus' words of caution add crucial instructions on how we can "see clearly" in our judgments: "Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?

Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye" RSV.

The Gospel of Luke records the same teaching or a similar word placed in this context: "But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for he is kind to the ungrateful and the selfish.

Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful. Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; give, and it will be given to you; good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap.

For the measure you give will be the measure you get back" Luke , RSV. In a discussion recorded in Luke , Jesus told the crowd, "You hypocrites! You know how to interpret the appearance of the earth and the sky; why do you not know how to interpret the present time?

Why do you not judge for yourselves what is right? If you are to go with your opponent before a magistrate, make an effort to settle the matter on the way; otherwise your opponent will turn you over to the judge, and the judge hand you over to the constable, and the constable throw you into prison" NAB. That same chapter goes on to record how some religious leaders Pharisees debated among themselves about how they were to deal with Jesus until Nicodemus, a member of their group, pointedly asked, "Does our law condemn a person before it first hears him and finds out what he is doing?

The following chapter, John 8, begins with religious leaders Pharisees, again bringing an adulterous women to be stoned, then ends with the group trying to stone Jesus! In between those episodes, Jesus told them, "You judge according to the flesh, I judge no one. Yet even if I do judge, my judgment is true, for it is not I alone that judge, but I and he God the Father who sent me" John Regarding religious people who kept trying to trip him up, Jesus said in verse 26, "I have much to say about you and much to judge….

In John , Jesus told the crowd, "I came into the world as light, so that everyone who believes in me might not remain in darkness. And if anyone hears my words and does not observe them, I do not condemn him, for I did not come to condemn the world but to save the world. Whoever rejects me and does not accept my words has something to judge him: the word that I spoke, it will condemn him on the last day, because I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and speak.

And I know that his commandment is eternal life. Where does Pope Francis say homosexual acts are gravely sinful and must be repented of to avoid hell? Does he even believe that to be the case? He could clear all this up in about two declarative sentences. Frankly, this is one area where if we do not speak the Truth with Love, we sound like a clashing gong.

Benedict XVI once wrote that justice without mercy is a form of cruelty, just as mercy without justice would be meaningless. Think about the difference between holy fear and servile fear. How exactly does preaching servile fear as opposed to holy fear to homosexuals or anyone else invite them to seek and know Christ?

How does a servile fear help anyone see what Christ wants to give them? Then he tries to convince you, once you commit that sin, that it is unforgivable. As far as judging, I think once we figure it out, we realize we have brought judgment on ourselves. Guy McClung, San Antonio. The neoCatholic establishment sure are busy these days telling us not to believe our lying eyes when it comes to Pope Francis. Must be tiring. And you know this how? Saturday Night Live had your character to a tee.

Pure hatred disguised as righteousness. Wow, Bill. Where do you see her sporting hatred? Oh, btw, I know a good lumberjack and a decent ophthalmologist, if you want that log taken out of your eye socket….

She thinks she can lay aside common decency and toleration of people different from her because she finds her justification in religion. They love to lampoon self-righteous religious zealots. Please name these experts in the fields of psychology, psychiatry and medicine since homosexuality is a biological and environmentally based. The teachings of the Catechism are the result of 2, years of study, debate, and discussion by hundreds if not thousands of learned scholars, scientists, priests, popes, saints, and other learned individuals, and it is inspired by God, the author of all creation as well as the author of science itself.

Your research has failed to prove anything but how many Catholics, especially youth, have fallen for the lies of the hyper-sexualized culture. That would mean the Klan in post Civil War days was a morally fine movement. Likewise for Nazism. Phil — you say you linked to the opinions of experts. Yet you link to a piece that is simply an opinion poll. Opinion polls are notoriously easy to skew. You can get a poll to tell you anything you want, by the skilfull alteration of a few words in the questions.

This is true because about half of all the people they poll have no idea about the issue and are not following it. So the tenor of the question governs the answer. Furthermore, the head of the Pew organization was speaking to a group of people a couple of years ago. He made a point to say that his organization was there to push people in a certain direction, not merely take polls and report out the results. I had always been somewhat suspicious of Pew because suddenly all the major media outlets began hyping their polls, and ignoring others.

Bill, it does not take a scientist or a psychologist to pronounce on the moral worth of certain actions. In fact, a scientist or a psychologist would be the very worst people to talk about morals. She wrote a well reasoned article. As a matter of fact, if you really read the thing, it is beautiful, balanced and gentle. It is interesting that you accuse me of hatred and then engage in the same against me, so I thank you for putting your hypocrisy on display. Now people will know not to take you seriously.

Logic and reason and subjective states of consciousness…btw I take Bill quite seriously as he is searching constantly for the Truth…searching and accepting pronouncements from the CC as realities for all people…. Bill S is, if I recall, an atheist who merely pushes his viewpoint on Catholic sites. Nothing wrong with that. We should be able to answer every question asked of us. Again, I have a long history with Bill. His searching is just an act.

Take an indefinite break from commenting. Not fair, Stacy, but you are the moderator. Phil, all human beings have disordered inclinations. All human beings have original sin. Some individuals, such as small children or disabled individuals, may not commit personal sin and if they are baptized, then they no longer have original sin, either.

But making a general statement regarding the nature of sin is not at all an insult to your son or anyone else. Maybe you need to step back and take a break for a while. JoAnna, I find that this post is quite contradictory and displays an ignorance of the concept of judgement and those failures stem from your excerpts of the CC. Sexual identity or orientation is not a choice; reparative therapy is a failure and in some states, illegal.

Sexuality is a part of who a person is, sexuality develops in utero, sexual orientation is a function of biological and environmental factors. Judgement is based upon wide ranging evidence, not simply the CC. Also consider the vast numbers of gay Catholic priests. Would you not want the bulk of clergy to be celibate heterosexual or a sexual men? The inclination judgement also judges many of your own clergy. See the contradiction? Phil, all human beings have objectively disordered inclinations.

You have a profound misunderstanding of sin. But we are to struggle against our sins and against our disordered inclinations, just as an alcoholic must overcome his urge to drink also a disordered inclination.

Just what sin should he struggle against? If he listens to you, you have won your brother. But if he doesn't listen to you, take with you one or two more so that on the word of two or three witnesses every word may be confirmed. They note, too, that Christ is also warning against rashly judging others in an unfavorable light and with an air of moral superiority.

Bradley Eli , M. Judging by Bradley Eli, M. Paul taught : I charge thee, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus, who will judge the living and the dead



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